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of january's big tax hikes, companies and investors are cashing out, including one of president obama's biggest supporters. plus as susan rice makes the rounds on capitol hill, we will look at what could make up the national security team in president obama's second term. >> i am ready and willing and able and excited to go ahead and get this issue resolved in a bipartisan fashion so american families, american businesses have some certainty going into next year. >> i'm disappointed in where we are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it, and i would hope the white house would get serious, as well. >> welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul. not exactly a meeting of the minds this week between president obama and house speaker john boehner on just where talks to end the fiscal showdown stand. the president, for his part, took his case to the public and repeated his call for a tax hike on upper income americans but made little mention of cuts to entitlement s
's big tax hikes, companies and investors are cashing out. including one of president obama's biggest supporters. plus, as susan rice makes the rounds on capitol hill, we'll look at who could make up the national security team in president obama's second term. ♪ >> i am ready and able and willing and excited to go ahead and get this issue resolved in a bipartisan fashion so that american families, american businesses, have some certainty going into next year. >> i'm disappointed in where we are and i'm disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. the fiscal cliff is a serious business and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. >> welcome tt colonel, editorial report, i'm paul gigot, not a meeting of the minds between president obama and house speaker john boehner where talks to end the fiscal showdown ends. the president for his park took his place for the public and called for america and little cuts to entitlement spending something the speaker says must be part of any final deal. wall street journal c
it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes. but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see it -- a single dime in tax increases next year. >> so, john boehner, the speaker for the republican party in this partisan fight is saying, he's already socking it to the rich. he's willing to raise their taxes in various forms but just not the rate. isn't he agreeing in principle to the president's argument of fairness? isn't he in a weaker position to deny a rate change? governor? >> sure he is, chris. number one, he hasn't specified what
, the speaker is claiming he's met obama's demand for higher taxes for the rich. that's good. he agreed in principle the rich must pay more. number three, there's talk for the republican leaders that they could vote to continue the tax cuts for the 98% now and therefore avoid the fiscal cliff and put off for now the top 2%. and the question then, let the debt ceiling not take effect. a tax cut delayed i argue is a tax cut avoided. joining me with the republican defense highly tauted fan of the eagles, ed rendell and alex wagner of msnbc's "now." governor, i want you to read what's going on here. first speaker boehner defended the gop's tax proposal saying it does take a bite out of the rich but president obama held firm to tax rate hike on the wealthiest. let's listen to the back and forth. >> revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates, which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher r
leadership has said he now agrees with president obama on taxes. >> we agree with the president on that. >> congressman cole said he thinks the house of representatives should simply pass the bill that has passed the senate, preserving the current tax rates for all except those in the top brackets, which would revert to the clinton tax rates. the current rates are expected to expire on new year's eve, all of them, and congressman cole has decided it's time to face reality. >> these tax rates are going up automatically unless congress acts. to save as many of them as possible. >> the newest republican defector from grover norquist's pledge has instantly become as good a sales man for higher top tax rates as any democrat. >> right now, congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody's income. everybody's. even the wealthiest americans would still get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. it's not like folks who make more than 250 aren't getting a tax break, they've getting a tax break on the first 250, just like everybody else. >> congre
. at the end of the day president obama is selling a simple message, i want to keep taxes low for middle class americans and republicans look like -- i'm worried they're in the position of looking this, if they don't care about the middle class and want to keep tax rates low for wealthier americans. >> yes or no, is he right? yes or no? >> i don't think so. it's far too easy. >> he's right. democratic strategists are giddy. for two years they've been trying to make this argue am, the republicans are going to hold yush doctor. >> let me go back. i think he's wrong. i think ultimately if we don't get a deal, it's bad for president obama, bad for his legacy, and bad for democrats. >> i think you're right but i also think that your party lost this election, they should act accordingly and they're not doing it. >> john boehner didn't lose. john boehner still -- >> that is exactly where you're all screwed up. you know, when tip o'neill was speaker with a lot more seats than you guys have, he never claimed he had a national mandate because he saw reagan had one. we vote for president of the notes. th
debate was about? obama championed tax fairness and won. republicans championed protecting that 2%, ignoring the 47% he talked about, and they lost. today boehner said he's willing to raise revenues by the same amount he agreed to back in august of 2011, the last time they had this fight. again, he's willing to act like the election never happened. no wonder. again, he lost. joining me is joy reid of the grio and howard fineman of the "huffington post." joy, you're chuckling because it is weirdly true. it's almost like groundhog day, this guy, boehner, he's not a bad guy, but he's operating on a bad thought here. the election didn't happen. >> it's incredible. it's amazing watching john boehner reach for anything, simpson/bowles which, by the way, assumed that the tax cuts for the top 2% would be gone, but he forgets about that, and boehner is trying to offer the same exact policies that mitt romney ran and lost on, that the republicans tried to negotiate with the white house. it is incredible. and the only way i can explain this, the only way i can possibly figure it is that mayb
' position is they want to raise taxes in this, and they want to have a tax deal. if you take president obama's tax increases, $82 billion a year. that doesn't even run -- that barely runs the post office for a year, much less the federal government. so there's not enough money there. you have to deal with into it with elements if you ever want to get this under control. simon keeps saying that the democrats are not intransgem. this is a letter signed by 33 senate democrats saying no changes to social security at all, ever, under any deal. megyn: even future. >> future. and year-end future. the democrats are absolutely intransigent on entitlements, this is what they're secretly saying to their supporters, and that's why they're going to go off the cliff. megyn: simon raises points about the president's budget and proposed spending cuts, but we have not had a budget out of the democrat-controlled senate in more than three years now. he wasn't able to get a vote -- >> i bet the democrats vote that one down too, like the last one. megyn: we'll see what happens. we're only in december. thanks, gu
.o.p. lawmakers to accepting the tax hikes now. >> i miss visiting towns like this. >> president obama got his wish, rather than negotiating with republicans he was hamering them. back on the campaign trail in a factory that makes angry bird toys. >> it's not accept to believe me and i don't think it's acceptable for you for republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage because they don't want the tax rates on the upper income folks to go up. >> within minutes, john boehner fired back the talks are on life support. >> let's not kid ourselves. >> boehner ripped the president for sending treasury secretary ti tim geithner to capitol hill with a proposal that led mitch mcconnell literally burst out laughing. >> the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of proposal. and much to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. >> their beef is the president campaigned on $800 billion in tax increases by ending the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. but is now proposing double that. $1.6 trillion. by adding tax hikes on dividends and capital gains. plus, the white house wants
company in pennsylvania today to call on congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class. president obama playing a little hardball accusing republicans of playing politics at the expense of american families. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to for you republicans to hold tax cuts hostage because they don't want rates on upper folks to go up. >> john boehner scheduled a last minute news conference. fired back with this. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. >> as the rhetoric heats up, the clock continues to tick down. after today, there are just ten legislative days on the calendar. the house announced they will be recessing one day early next would he week. joining me now from the white house, white house correspondent kristen welker. what's the latest from 1600 pennsylvania? >> well, good afternoon, craig. as you can see the holiday decorations are going up here at the white house. but it doesn't seem like anyone is in the holiday
reiterated his demand that any deal must raise taxes on the highest earner. yesterday obama also appeared to showroom for flexibility on actually relowering those tax rates in the future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. p what i've suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close, and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that points. >> in the meantime, now the gop is fighting w
. president obama with a big kind of pep rally at the white house to push those tax cuts for the middle class and republicans on capitol hill saying no, no, no, we hate the middle class. come on. let's give tax cuts to the rich! the millionaires and the billionaires, to the koch brothers and donald trump. we'll bring you up to date and give you a chance to sound off on the issues which i know you can't wait to do. you can do it by giving us a call at 1-866-55-press. you can join the conversation on twitter at bpshow on facebook, facebook.com/billpressshow. and if you really want to get into it with your fellow "full court pressers," go into the chat room. try it out. it is a lot of fun. go to current.com and click on the chat room and you are in! here we are. lucky day. thursday november 29 for somebody. >> it wasn't that lucky. you're still here. peter ogborn and dan henning good morning guys. leading team press with phil backert and cyprian bowlding. cyprian and i had our powerball tickets. we were ready, we were
with us. thanks for watching. president obama is selling his economic agenda and using all the right tools. the president was surrounded today by middle class taxpayers at the white house as he pushed for an extension of the tax cuts for income below $250,000. he was quick to highlight the break in the ranks with the republicans. >> i am glad to see, if you've been reading the papers lately, that more and more republicans in congress, seem to be agreeing with this idea that we should have a balanced approach. so if both parties agree we should not raise taxes on middle class families, let's begin our work with where we agree. >> president obama isn't talking about some moderate republican or some blue dog democrat, he is talking about conservative republican oklahoma congressman, tom cole. cole is the first republican to openly call for agreeing to middle class tax cuts. >> we all agree that we are not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just take them out of this discussion right now. continue to fight against any rate increases, continue to try to work
network cd obama's favorite issue which is raising taxes 17 times more than spending cuts, and all told, 10 minutes and 18 seconds were devoted to taxes. compared to a whopping 35 seconds of air time on house spending cuts might be a useful tool in actually tackling our debt. not surprisingly, that trend was-mile-an-hou mirrored all across the major networks. here with reaction to that report and obama's parent indifference to the approaching so-called fist colorad fist fisk stein. welcome to hannity. >> great to be with you, sir. >> i'm getting the feeling more and more every day. he wants to humiliate the republicans. >> i this is an opportunity to drive a stake through the republican party. i think his strategy all along, i said this in my book, so it's weird to see it coming true so literally is to establish 25% of gdp as the new baseline for federal spending. he needs everybody's taxes to go up, not just warren's buffett's. he can do that two ways. he can get john boehner to capitulate or he can say the hell with it, let's go off the fiscal cliff and blame the republicans. >> if he
obama offered up cuts in the -- cuts in the tax increases that helped bring the deficit in the first place but he's already clocked out around $2 trillion in spending cuts and interest decreases over the next ten years. now, as we know, the republicans have run and beaten the democrats on this idea that they're going to cut things, that they're going to find waste and eliminate it. well guys, now is your chance! step up to the microphone. what exactly are the cuts? it is funny. we're not hearing anything from these guys after they talked about it for so long. >> stephanie: exactly. that's what the white house is saying. the ball is in the republican's court. we're four weeks from the slope hill ramp. boehner -- republicans have a plan for providing as much as $800 billion in new government revenue over the next decade and we considered the elimination of tax deductions on high-income earners but when pressed for details, he declined to say. >> we've got a plan but i can't explain it to you because you wo
60% of americans agree with president obama's plan to increase taxes on those making $250,000 or more. if you look at questions coming in, there's still concerns about those ideas, so the president answering those this afternoon. this is really like a twitter town hall. he used a similar tactic back in 2011 to talk about jobs and the economy. also remember during the payroll tax cut fight, senior administration officials tell me they have gotten more responses during this my2k hash tag initiative than in the past. that stands for $2,000, which is how much taxes would increase. john boehner says this is at a standoff. all sides need to come back to the table at some point to get progress anytime soon. tamron. >> let me bring in congressman chris van hollen. thank you for your time, sir. very busy and saw you on the monday morning program as well. how would you categorize talks right now? is this a true stalemate? >> well, it's only a stalemate because speaker boehner, the republican leader, has not put his proposal on the table. as you know, the president has put his cards on the table
a competitive tax system and i think our slow going economy under president obama says we don't. >> the new york times though makes a mention of, just a sort of a passing mention in this massive article, by the way, about the need to cut spending like one or two sentences about the need-- >> and i think that milton freedman brought us, that spending is really the tax bill. it's just delayed. so, every toll the government spends eventually they're going to have to take it from someone, either in taxes or in inflation, so, this is why you're seeing a lack of business investment is because this massive spending and huge debt tells every business owner, every investor, big tax are are coming to eventually pay for this. >> what was the point of the piece? i know there's hand wringing out there, maybe the folks on the right say under obama our taxes have gone up and we may more in taxes than we've ever paid and attempt to say, we're not-- >> this is long-term by the president and his allies to create an intellectual justification to raise taxes and in this case, they use the reagan years and often wen
immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be risking a civil war over this issue. it does not look like obama is ready to cave. if that forces republican leaders to compromise staunch conservatives will likely rebel. more "bill press" up after t
out swinging. . >> raising tax rates will hurt the economy. >> i will not play that game. >> president obama standing his ground. >> i will not play that game. >> he's not willing to play that game. >> playing the smackdown. >> i think the president has boxed the republicans in. >> i know we have it to raise revenue. >> is he the only republican? >> i don't care how we do it. >> raising tax rates hurt the economy. >> let's just go over the [ bleep ] cliff. >> if they do not make this deal on tax rates for the top 2%, then they're going away. >> i just hope this doesn't become a game of chicken. >> i will not play that game. >> it goes into february and march. >> public opinion is on their side. >> when we have to raise the debt ceiling. >> i will not play that game. >> this is about gaining maximum leverage. >> we've gone through this before. >> some republicans believe that will give them more leverage. >> it's government at the brink all the time. >> these guys are not serious about negotiating. >> the next 72 hours are critical. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> let's just g
for the republicans. in the "wall street journal" they write obama's flexible on highest tax rates. white house's flexibility, described by bowls, confirmed by the administration officials, could envision tax rates -- tax rate increase from the current level but was less than clinton era levels. if the republicans can say, we cut taxes from where they were under clinton it gives them cover though rates may go up. a weird, if there is an act of kabuki theater that would be it, right. >> i see a parallel between the two news story the palestinian vote and the congressional stuff because boehner's -- >> be careful here, my friend, please. >> let me do my caveats first. i still have a job when i walk out of the studio. i sort of see a boehner in the role of a boss here. you know he has got, you know, he's got still a very hard core group of people on right who are not still -- still not terribly afraid and are not taking lessons out of election so he really does have a fundamental concern about how he's going to put together a coalition to do this. and i really do think, for all joking aside, this
that they really stick to tax cuts have to continues for the wealthiest 2%, obama local veto rather than make a bad deal. do you agree? >> i completely degree. the president has drawn a clear line in the sand on this whole idea of the tax cuts. he said at every campaign speech. if you make over a quarter of a million dollars, your taxes will go up. it's just that simple. i think the republicans have even sort of moved a little bit to the left on this. they are like, you know, we are willing to put a come-along with that. there are some republicans you are. you are never going to get michelle bachmann paul ryan god bless america. for all of the other ones moderate republicans and those are like, wait a second. i am going to be in a tough primary fight. in the mid-term election, going to be in the mid-term fight against a democratic candidate. they are going to have to come to the middle. i think there is also, new republicans republicans, you know, in the united states congress like the bob corker's of this world, pat tumis whom say let's get something done b
. >> the members are going home for a nice long weekend. thanks very much for that. president obama isn't negotiating like we just heard. he's negotiating to raise the tax rates on the rich as a downpayment on a larger deal to come later as far as taxes are concerned and medicare is concerned. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top two percent, that includes all of you, yes. but not in anyway that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. 97% of small businesses don't see an increase in taxes next year. and by doing that alone, we raise almost a trillion dollars. >> let's bring in our chief political analyst right now, the president also had a specific warning for members of congress, the republicans on the issue of raising the debt ceiling. listen to this. >> if congress in anyway suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way w
about that let's show what grover norquist had to say. he's the anti-tax pledge crusader. this is what he had to say yesterday. >> tea party two will dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> that's like say anaconda two will dwarf anaconda one. the sequel will be more intense. a poll find out last week that they found a majority of americans will blame the republicans in congress not the president for failure to make the deal. as we hear what grover says you see at any time other way. you say it will be the democrats. >> it could be. depending on what happens. if they keep posturing we can go off the fiscal cliff it won't be such a big deal i don't think that's where most democrats will end up. you they are president and a lot of people down in washington saying they don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. as far as grover norquist notices, i don't think republicans should be caving to a special interest of one, frankly. we do see some brave republicans coming out there and they should be supported because they are about finding a solution. >> i want to show this tomb th
: okay. so president obama is also saying that he wants to raise taxes on families earning more than $250,000, but that move would only generate about $85 billion a year. that is a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of u.s. debt. and that number is about what the federal government spends in just eight days. so if he gets what he wants everybody over 250,000 pays more it's going to cover eight and a half days of the government spending amount and some would say the government spending problem. art laugher joins me now. architect of reagan tphopl i raeug reagannomics. in washington they have a lot of work to do. the question is whether or not the tax issue, whether or not the president has flexibility on that. whether we go back to the 39% or whether it would be less than that. are you seeing any light in that discussion? >> if he's willing to negotiate about the highest rates i take that as a wonderful, wonderful sign. you know, first place, even if they raise the rates they are never going to get the money. these people know how to get around paying taxes. they hire lawyers, acco
taxes to that. tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1 if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> so basically what grover nor 0 quist is saying there to the members of the tea party who were elected, have been elected, we'll take everybody who is against us into a primary on the right on the republican side. >> right. >> and so the threat has been issued already. >> that was the point. >> this is like political terrorism. >> well, it's certainly a clear bargaining position. i remember talking to a longtime member of the house running for the senate we were talking about something else, and i said is it worse than when you came in, which was in the late '80s? and he said the central difference is in the caucus, the republican kcaucus. the fear is not a democratic challenge, it's a primary challenge. it's the first time i heard the verb to be primaried. you can ask senator lugar about this. it's real. it's becoming increasingly difficult to cast one or two compromise votes even early on because of this he cecho chambe that kicks in and, to me, what's so scary about it is the president's second term
obama which included a mythical increase in tax revenue of $800 billion obtained by reducing or eliminating unspecified tax deductions was taken seriously by no one in the senate except republican jim demipt. speaker boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. the heritage foundation skewered the boehner counteroffer on its blog. at first blush, it appears little more than categorical preemptive capitulation. to be fair, the details of the republican proposal are extraordinarily vague to the extent it can be interpreted from the hazy details that it is utterly unacceptable. president obama said today there is a time and a place to discuss reforming the tax code. but that time is not now. >> what i've suggested is let's put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. let's let those go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it is possible that we m
that it is utterly unacceptable. president obama said today there is a time and a place to discuss reforming the tax code. but that time is not now. >> what i've suggested is let's put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. let's let those go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it is possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point. >> joining me here in washington are congressman tim walls, democrat from minnesota, and karen finney, the former dnc director and msnbc analyst. you introduced today in the house a discharge petition which is a way for normally the minority to try to get, to force a vote on something that the leadership doesn't want. this petition would basically bring to a vote in the house the bill that the senate passed, which is basically the president's version of the tax structure that he would like to see. what's happening with
the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal has to raise taxes on the highest earners. but yesterday the president also appeared to show a little bit of flexibility in lowering those tax rates in the future. take a listen to what he said. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal -- what i've suggested is, let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base a
when it comes to taxes and entitlements. in a meeting with middle class americans yesterday, president obama said he believes the framework for a deal could be in place before christmas. >> and i'll go anywhere and i'll do whatever it takes to get this done. it's too important for washington to screw this up. now's the time for us to work on what we all agree to which is let's keep middle class taxes low. that's what our economy needs. that's what the american people deserve. >> the white house is also turning to social media in a new twitter hash tag to spread his message. >> today, i'm asking congress to listen to the people who sent us here to serve. i'm asking americans all across the country to make your voice heard. tell members of congress what a $2,000 tax hike would mean you to. call your members of congress. write them an e-mail, post it on their facebook walls. you can tweet it using th the #my2k. not y2k, #my2k. >> they showed support for cutting a deal with the president. yesterday the oklahoma republican repeated his belief that congress should start by locking in tax cut
on president obama's call to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. here's what the president told bloomberg's white house correspondent about that. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenue but was he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the platte it doesn't work. when i've said is, i am prepared to work with the speaker and democrats and republicans to go after excessive health care costs in our federal health care system, we're going to have to strengthen those systems and i think we can do that without hurting seniors, without hurting beneficiaries. i think that, you know, there's probably more cuts that we can squeeze out, though we've made over a trillion worth of spending cuts. >> you'll remember only a week ago the democrats proposed their solution to this and it was rejected by the republicans. the president is reiterating that taxes have to go up on the nation's top 2% in order to get the deal in their opinion, to avoid the fiscal cliff. i think you can fi
republicans get, the republicans get the tax rates they want, the medicare cuts they want, the trillion dollars in spending cuts president obama agreed to, hundreds of billions in additional cuts, ending the payroll tax break, ending jobless benefits and they get the opportunity to create a new debt ceiling crisis in a few months. that's on the republican side, what the republicans get in their proposal. what do the democrats get in their proposal? they get this. a promise to end undefined tax deductions and loopholes of some kind at some point maybe next year. ta da! a fair and balanced middle ground. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> yes. balance. here's the amazing part, though. after congressional republicans released their plan yesterday, which gives them everything they want and promises democrats that they might get something undefined that they might want maybe some time in the future. we'll talk about it later. after they put forth that sweet deal, this was the reaction from the beltway's conservative class. this is genius. sadly, th
will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. >> reporter: president obama is back on the stump pressing republicans to cut a deal averting the fiscal cliff. >> it's like the lump of coal you get for christmas. it's a scrouge christmas. >> there's a stalemate, let's not kid ourself rs. >> reporter: things got tense after secretary geithner visited capitol hill thursday to present what republicans are calling an unreasonable proposal. it includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes. in part, through raising rates on the top 2%. and lips loopholes and reductions. $50 billion in stimulus next year, and $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings to be worked out. >> i think the proposal delivered here by secretary geithner was not a serious proposal. >> they want this extra spending that's greater than the amount willing to cut. >> democrats say it was just a starting point. and one republicans should counter. >> there will be prolonged negotiations. and all of us are going to have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. >> cnn learned last week the repu
that was wildly unpopular. for president obama, people already like his idea, about raising taxes on income over a quarter million dollars and keeping everybody else's rates low and having that be the approached to a balanced approach to the deficit. that popularity of the idea that he is traveling around the country talking about. the popularity, the positive polling numbers for what he is talking about around the country is one of the two big advantages that president obama has here. the other is sort of as yet unexplored territory. when it comes to this type of campaigning, to asking the public to get involved in a policy issue, this president has an advantage that we don't really know how it is going to play out. this president, more than any other president and candidate in america history, maybe more than any other candidate in any country in history has built up a complex, comprehensive, robust, working system for finding his supporters, figuring out how best to contact them and then mobilizing them on his behalf, more than anybody else in history. the data-driven, high-tech system of con
to raise the medicare age? raising taxes on the wealthy is easy. >> it is hard to do and you can't do it on a partisan basis. this election did not produce a mandate for president obama or our democratic friends, we have got exactly the same thing we had before the election which is divided government. >> he has more people in congress than he had before and he did win the election and he was clear he wanted to raise taxes on the rich. >> we have got divided government, neither party could do what they want to alone, like the first two years that obama was president, we got obama care and other pieces of legislation. i think people want well thought out negotiated bipartisan solutions to the problem. you don't get that when the president has no plan to close that hole and to deal with medicare and social. and he spends his time not around the negotiating table, but rather conducting rallys outside of town. i just think he's not serious about this. >> the president has said he would support raising the age for medicare coverage for a ten-year period. >> he has said a lot of things at d
was speaking up, speaking up, speaking up. at that point in protest against president obama's 2010 proposed tax deals compromise with the congressional republicans. technically, it wasn't an actual filibuster because he wasn't preventing republicans from speaking and doing business. he did go on for 8 hours and 37 minutes. no words on whether he used the sauna to dehydrate himself. i remember bernie sanders doing this and my twitter feed going nuts with enthusiasm after two years of saying we should get rid of the filibuster. then it was like go bernie, go bernie, go. i thought, we like it when it's our guy doing it. >> that's where we get the distinction. when i say filibuster, i'm knot talking about holding the floor. that's great. he had eight hours to get his point across. now the filibuster is i'm going to send an e-mail to mr. mcconnell, it's going to take 60 now. then you don't have that debate. you block it at the outset. we don't have that discussion. >> so it's changed. >> is that the reform that matters? i want to point out, there was another time when progressives got excited. that
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